Brent Johnston using his position as NSMT to lure players to OakBay???

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Brent Johnston using his position as NSMT to lure players to OakBay???

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Posted 1 year ago
treetop
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I find this very unprofessional, it seems that OakBay are getting NSMT players by the bunch, this is all due to Brent Johnston being the national team manager, and his position of having access to all these players!!!! If any club should be looked at it is them. It is wrong on his part and he should be given the boot!!

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Posted 1 year ago
OHBOY
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To go along with that CW have already made advances on players from the two island clubs that were relegated, WTF!! These clubs are having a hard enough time as it is keeping things positive without this bullshit....

I honestly think these big clubs will not be happy until everybody else is destroyed including Canadian rugby!! But I guess that will be OK because they will be able to tell everyone they are champion of BC and their 4 team premier league.....

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Posted 1 year ago
rugbyfan07
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He's doing the same thing that Alan Rees, Dr. Fairhurst and Dave Docherty did when they were hanging around the the national players. Don't expect it to change.

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Posted 1 year ago
rugbyfan07
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These big clubs? Who else is poaching players away from teams after they have been relegated? The BC premiere league is a joke right now, it's a confusing mess as is the 1st division. Go back to the basics and stop trying to reinvent the wheel.

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Posted 1 year ago
OHBOY
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Fan,

Check and see if there are any VRC players now playing for other teams in Vancouver. As well CW are not the only big club in Victoria to make advances on relegated players... I will give you a hint who the other club is, you do not need to go to university to play for them.....

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Posted 1 year ago
Frank
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As long as they are playing who really cares where they play.

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Posted 1 year ago
Harry Craig
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I'm glad to see players playing, but I like loyalty.

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Posted 1 year ago
Popo
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We all should care about what is happening in BC and Victoria as it is having a direct negative impact on the game in Canada, BC and Victoria.

The game is being killed locally.

There is a reason why rugby in Victoria has not grown and has declined in schools and at the club level while other sports have taken off, such as football. locals are less an less involved in rugby and it is sad to see.

In plain English, There are less players playing the game in Canada as result of the actions of a hand full of clubs and a national organization that does not have the courage or patience to do things the right way.

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Posted 1 year ago
rugbyfan07
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The main reason rugby is dying in Victoria is that there are very few rugby coaches in the school system anymore. To many have retired only to be replaced by a non rugby teacher.

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Posted 1 year ago
AussieBack
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rugbyfan07 said:
These big clubs? Who else is poaching players away from teams after they have been relegated? The BC premiere league is a joke right now, it's a confusing mess as is the 1st division. Go back to the basics and stop trying to reinvent the wheel.

Wait, I'm confused. I thought BC club rugby = good and CRC = bad. I must have missed something...

Posted 1 year ago #
rugbyfan07
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CRC is a good idea but is run at the wrong time of the year. I'm still confused on how you can have it as a pathway to the national team after theyve aleady played

Posted 1 year ago #
Popo
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The problem with the CRC is that BC does not like it.

The time of year is not the problem or even close to it.

Proof of this is the fact that all the guys who come from East of the Rockies to play in the BC Premiere find it within themselves to play in the CRC for their regional sides while BC complains about the time of year the CRC is run.

BC's Premiere represents good Rugby in Canada, but the league itself, the way it is run and the way clubs in it behave has proven to be a factor in the decline of development of elite players from BC and does nothing for growing the game in BC or Canada.

Posted 1 year ago #
rugbyfan07
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Once again the CRC should be played before the Churchill Cup. How can you have a pathway to the national team be played after the competion.

Posted 1 year ago #
irishlock
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rugbyfan07 said:
Once again the CRC should be played before the Churchill Cup. How can you have a pathway to the national team be played after the competion.

Because there are 2 international windows.....
we play churchill cup in june - predominantly against A teams and not full internationals. These A team opponents don't give any ranking points. We play again in the Autumn Internationals against full international sides with ranking points at stake. Arguably those games are more important. If you had CRC in April / May as selection for Churchill Cup, a) that doesn't help you select for the full internationals in the fall, and b) where is anyone east of the rockies going to play there games?

Posted 1 year ago #
rugbyfan07
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Your telling me that you think playing Spain, Belguim, and Portugual are better opposition than playing France A, England A, and USA.

Posted 1 year ago #
PALADIN
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Irishlock makes perfect sense to me. This was the first
time we played lower ranked teams in Nov. Still getting
beat by Georgia should be an eye opener.
Losing in Japan by ten trys to one should have been a eye
opener.
We have to sit thru World Cup and then put Lazy and
Sleepy back on a plane to their homelands.
Just wait till our U20 results come in.

This thread has gone completely off topic!!

Posted 1 year ago #
irishlock
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rugbyfan07 said:
Your telling me that you think playing Spain, Belguim, and Portugual are better opposition than playing France A, England A, and USA.

Not what I said. The win over France A means nothing rankings wise though. Great result, no points.

Wins over Spain, Portugal, Belgium give ranking points. As would one over Georgia if that had materialised.

So 4 game with points at stake vs 1 (against USA) in the Churchill Cup. Seems like a no-brainer.

Posted 1 year ago #
rugbyfan07
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I would take games against 6 nations A squads over Wins over Belgium, Spain and Portugual any time. We are not going to be invited back to play top nations anytime soon.

Posted 1 year ago #
Harry Craig
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Irish lock you asked where teams east of the Rockies will play in the spring. Most BC rugby people don't believe there is rugby east of the Rockies so they don't care. They think the Tide should play Vancouver and the winner is Champion of Canada.

Posted 1 year ago #
PALADIN
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Harry Not True and Too Bitter.
Go out and Shovel some Snow.
Work it out!!

Posted 1 year ago #
Harry Craig
Member

I'm not bitter. It's true they want us to keep playing so they can recruit our best players, except Shawnaigan Lake, then recruitng is bad.

Posted 1 year ago #
PALADIN
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SLS is breaking BCSS rules(read cheating) in order to win.

CW, breaking no rules, recruited 2 players from Ont.(MM,
MS,) 1 from NFL and 1 from Alt. They went from a dismal
finish in the Vancouver Island league(fall 2010) to
having a shot at winning the 2011 BC Premier League.
I, for one, say well done Castaway Wanderers!!

Posted 1 year ago #
Harry Craig
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My understanding is that BCSS took no action, which means Shawnigan wasn't cheating. Then some schools took it upon them selves to partake of vigilante justice by boycotting them.

As far as my assertion about BC and the rest of the country I was a little tongue in cheek, but BC seems to be willing to take part in any competion they win. If they lose they make excuses about the time of year or the colour of the lines on the field. Year one of CRC BC wins no complaints. Next year and they go 0-4 and it's the wrong time of year. If they are as good as they think they are they should be able to win no matter what.

Posted 1 year ago #
knower
Member

Your right Harry there is NO EXCUSE for BC losing the CRC
and there is NO EXCUSE for Shawnigan Lake School cheating.

Posted 1 year ago #
rucknmaul
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Harry, BC's full lineup would smoke any other province or region, Period.

Posted 1 year ago #
rugbyfan07
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Ruckandmaul it might, but it didn't last year. Let's see who makes themselves avaiable this year.

Posted 1 year ago #
Harry Craig
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rucknmaul said:
Harry, BC's full lineup would smoke any other province or region, Period.

Your full line up is the one you put out on any given day. No excuses. I checked, they had fifteen players on the field for every game, that is a full line up. No excuses.

Posted 1 year ago #
newbie
Member

Last year or two years ago didn't Velox fly players from Alberta to Victoria on the weekends to play CDI? Didn't the Rock fly players from Victoria to play in the CRC?

From what I understand Rugby Canada suggests players head to Victoria to work out at PISE and to get seen by playing club rugby, the players choose what club they want to play for. If they aren't going to go to UVic then the only option is JBAA or CW. Velox is in complete shambles right now and Cowichan is so far out of Victoria that nobody wants to live up there or commute.

Is Brent Johnston going to put his job with RC in jeopardy by recruiting players to Victoria to play for CW? Not likely!

Posted 1 year ago #
rucknmaul
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Harry, to tell you the truth I could care less if BC won or lost all it's games. I'm an advocate for rugby in general accross Canada, so I am quite happy when other regions do well. That being said players like Fairhurst, Hirayama, Burak, Mack etc make a huge difference to BC if available.

Posted 1 year ago #
Harry Craig
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Why weren't they playing then?

Posted 1 year ago #