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CDI Semi finals

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  2. Popo
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    Paying 5,000 for a player to play for 5 months is cheaper than flying them in for targeted matches.

    Going through the player bio's of CW's starting lineup for the most recent match one is hard pressed to find even one or two players who came from CW's "vaunted" junior program.

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  4. newbie
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    Yes but go through UVic's and you will find a few

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  6. Popo
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    So what is that 4 or 5 guys out of 30 who came up through CW's juniors and the bulk of those are not currently playing for CW. I am not sure what to make of that.

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  8. Frank
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    You could give me $50,000.00 and I wouldn't play for those clowns. The CDI is a joke, come play in the Marshall League.

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  10. CBCNews
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    Frank I highly doubt you would warrant such a salary and if you think the Marshall League is even close to the calibre of the CDI then your dreaming.

    The Marshall League is where all the ontario players return to with their tail between their legs when they realize they can't cut it against real players.

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  12. knower
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    PALADIN said:
    Hey What about clubs paying their coaches?
    UVic UBC CW Velox Lomas Caps Ravens etc etc
    What Premier team, other than JBAA, doesn't
    pay their coach?
    IF? CW pays some/all their players SO WHAT?
    They are not breaking any BCRU rules.

    CW could NEVER be accused of not having a great junior
    program. How they build a Championship team is their business.

    Pay attention and learn Losers!

    In BC we pay for coaches!
    In BC we pay for referees!
    In BC we pay for players!
    Come West Young Man, Come West!

    Wait till you see how many BC Premier Players
    make the 2011 World Cup Squad.
    Come West Young Man, Come West!

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  14. Harry Craig
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    I think the Ontario league is not quite as good as the BC one but not far off it's level. Rugby in Canada and around the world is open, meaning players may be paid. There is nothing against the rules as far as I can see to paying the players at any level in Canada. If CW are paying players like suggested here I assume that it is one or two rich members providing the cash, not general club funds. I don't know this to be true, it is just a guess on my part but I can't see where a club who come up with the funds otherwise. If I ever win that $50 million Lotto Max jackpot that I keep dreaming of look out for the next year's squad of the Ajax Wanderers, bet that money can buy. I never got offered any money to play but as a referee a number of clubs in Ontario have offered me a large sum if I will move to another province.

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  16. bs_detector
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    bisquit said:
    CBCnews- unless two of the ontario players flat out lied when they told me, it would be you who is "grossly misinformed"

    Titan those are pro leagues, CDI is not and nor is the SLS competing in one. You are the ridiculous one if you think that paying money to the likes of Frank Walsh, Gordon Kehoe and Mark MacSween, none of whom are likely to make the World Cup squad, will improve our National Team.

    I wouldn't count Frank Walsh out for a spot on the World Cup Squad. Here's a quote from the BC Rugby News write up of the CDI Final...

    "The next event had fans roaring as it was Walsh who "knicked" the pass and was off in full flight! He rambled almost 60m before the pursuit caught him and it all came to naught. This big man constantly demonstrates great individual skills, his off loads and “soft” hands are amazing, not to mention his fitness and pace."

    Combine this with his track record of solid scrummaging and he makes a great contender for the squad.

    I have also seen a few other writers indicate he's considered as being in contention for a spot.

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  18. PALADIN
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    Saw the Game. Won a bet by picking CW to win.
    CW was the better team but was out scrummed by Lomas.
    Canada does not need props who hang out in the backfield to intercept poorly timed passes.
    They need props who can set a scrum and lift in the
    lineout.
    Frank Walsh, bye bye.

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  20. Darcy Rota
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    Based on our props the last few years, i think we should look at all our options. It has probably been our weakest position followed by centre(s).

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  21. Popo
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    Have to agree with Paladin. A prop's primary job is to provide stability in the set pieces. The secondary job is to provide the mettle in ruck's, mauls and tackle. Everything else is gravy.

    If your game plan hinges on a prop being your primary attacking option with ball in hand and select accordingly you have lost the game before it has begun.

    Prop's need to be selected on their ability in set pieces and to get around the park to support the tackle. If all else is equal amongst potential props than choose the one with better hands.

    BS_detector I think the article you quote from is written by a CW supporter and not exactly objective.

    I have no idea what Walsh's skill set is as I have not seen him play so I am not passing any judgement on him with this post.

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  22. Popo
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    Have to agree with Paladin. A prop's primary job is to provide stability in the set pieces. The secondary job is to provide the mettle in ruck's, mauls and tackle. Everything else is gravy.

    If your game plan hinges on a prop being your primary attacking option with ball in hand and select accordingly you have lost the game before it has begun.

    Prop's need to be selected on their ability in set pieces and to get around the park to support the tackle. If all else is equal amongst potential props than choose the one with better hands.

    BS_detector I think the article you quote from is written by a CW supporter and not exactly objective.

    I have no idea what Walsh's skill set is as I have not seen him play so I am not passing any judgement on him with this post.

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  23. bs_detector
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    Popo,

    Walsh ticks all those prerequisite "prop-work" boxes (solid in scrums/lineouts, rucks and tackle etc). The point is that in addition to those primary responsibilities he has the "gravy" skills of great hands, pace and the ability to get around the park. What is more valuable, a one dimensional "set-piece" prop, or a multi-dimensional prop that does it all well? I've read nothing but positive reports on his play on BC Rugby News and he was named the sites CDI MVP one week. He has also regularly outplayed other (considered) tops props in the country for years (from BC, Ontario and the Prairies). In addition, he played well with the NSMT against teams such as Ireland etc.

    Time will tell as to who's right about him getting a World Cup squad spot or not.

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  24. Popo
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    BS Detector did you read my post at all?

    I was talking generally not about any one individual player.

    I was just agreeing with Paladin that a guy should not be selected for hands alone at the prop position.

    If Walsh is the guy for Canada, Fantastic lets get him in there.

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  25. rugbyfan07
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    What Ireland game was that? I'm thinking the one where we looked like an elementary girls school team. And the TV commentary even said so.

    I've watched Walsh get worked on by the James Bay's props. Who are decent props but not national level, and one time by a second row who filled at the last minute. a national level prop should have the upper hand in every scrum in every club game he plays in, if he can't he should lose his pay cheque( carding).

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  26. teamaccess
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    rugbyfan07 said:
    a national level prop should have the upper hand in every scrum in every club game he plays in, if he can't he should lose his pay cheque( carding).

    Walsh isn't carded so you must be talking about Jason Marshall.

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