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U20 JWRT

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  1. Ad Bot

    Posted 4 months ago

  2. newbie
    Member

    U20 mens team will be playing in the Junior World Rugby Trophy in Russia starting May 18th against Zimbabwe, Russia May 22nd and then Japan on May 26th.

    Any predictions?

    Posted 4 months ago #

  3. rusty_lock
    Member

    3-0 after the preliminary rounds

    Posted 4 months ago #

  4. Ad Bot

    Posted 3 months ago

  5. Harry Craig
    Member

    I think Canada should win the tournament. Too bad Armstrong had to bow out with injury.

    Posted 3 months ago #

  6. newbie
    Member

    Yes they should win but with the talent the team has had over the last few years they really shouldn't be there. Heres hoping they can win it and be bumped back up to the Junior World Cup

    Posted 3 months ago #

  7. CanNZ
    Member

    If the win the tournamnet are they guaranteed to be back with the big(young) boys?

    Posted 3 months ago #

  8. rusty_lock
    Member

    I believe a top two finish guarantees them promotion back up to the top group

    Posted 3 months ago #

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    Posted 3 months ago

  10. Harry Craig
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    Where is that info from from Rusty, I'm pretty sure it is only one up.

    Posted 3 months ago #

  11. rusty_lock
    Member

    In all honesty Harry I just surmised it from other info. I couldn't actually find anywhere that said explicitly what the criteria for moving up was. I remember in 07 the boys finished 2nd to Italy in the B group and the following year they were playing in the A group. I believe that that year it was a U21 tourney. I know the format has changed a little since 07 as matter of fact the format has changed from 09 to 10 so I`m might be talking totally off.

    As a side note. What happened to the USA there not listed for the JWC or the JWT they finished 2nd in 09 to the romanians and now nothing.

    Posted 3 months ago #

  12. Harry Craig
    Member

    USA was supposed to play Canada for a spot in the JWT this year but declined after they were awarded the right to host the 2011 event. As for promotion and relegation it was two up and two down when there were sixteen teams in the main event but I'm pretty sure now that both events are 12 teams it is one up and one down.

    Posted 3 months ago #

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  16. rusty_lock
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    Does anybody have any clues as to how to view any of the games online.

    Posted 3 months ago #

  17. Ad Bot

    Posted 3 months ago

  18. CanNZ
    Member

    The boys won the first game 22 - 6 against Zimbabwe.

    Posted 3 months ago #

  19. Harry Craig
    Member

    The home team is next, lets get even for the World Hockey championships today. Go Canada Go.

    Posted 3 months ago #

  20. newbie
    Member

    Russia 17 Canada 15 Japan next with Japan sitting one point up on Canada in the pool. Should be a good one! Go Canada Go!

    Posted 3 months ago #

  21. scarface
    Member

    Canada lose to Japan 38-17. No chance of getting back to the Championship...does not bode well for the future of Canadian men's rugby.

    Posted 3 months ago #

  22. Ad Bot

    Posted 3 months ago

  23. newbie
    Member

    Tons of talent on this team and in previous years. So whats the problem I wonder?

    Posted 3 months ago #

  24. rusty_lock
    Member

    Very very disappointing.

    The whole age grade concept needs reworking. The unions need to connect with schools so that there is some stucture to the whole thing.

    Posted 3 months ago #

  25. Popo
    Member

    No need to re work the system just send all the U-20 guys to Victoria where they turn nickel into gold.

    Posted 3 months ago #

  26. teamaccess
    Member

    Interesting to read that Japan scored twice via pushover scrum given that RC reported pregame that Canada's pack outweighed Japan's by 16kg per player.

    Posted 3 months ago #

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    Posted 3 months ago

  28. seven
    Member

    newbie said:
    Tons of talent on this team and in previous years. So whats the problem I wonder?

    The problem is that these kids are protected from playing any meaningful rugby in our domestic leagues. Why would you schedule a Canada camp the same weekend as the BC finals. And not allow the players who would be playing in the finals to play. I guess having them up at a camp playing touch is going to make them better rugby players.

    This sport is run by idiots. Start up the Pride again, bring back the Welsh experiment players and lets start playing and getting the players to play meaningful rugby

    Tag

    The Canadian rugby way of doing things

    Posted 3 months ago #

  29. newbie
    Member

    Not all the players at the camp were going to be playing in the BC finals. A few but not all. Since the U20 has come into being they have steadily gone down in the world rankings.

    I don't think it is hard to figure out what change should take place.

    Posted 3 months ago #

  30. seven
    Member

    I didn't say "all the players". but the ones that could have, should have. Nothing like getting experience playing in pressure games in front of 500 to 1000 fans to help up and coming players to deal with the mental and physical pressure of big games. But if management thinks playing touch in a camp atmosphere prepares them better for the test against other nations we will continue to lose.

    Tag

    Posted 3 months ago #

  31. Popo
    Member

    Clearly having guys play in the CDI and train in Victoria has been quite successful for our U-20's and Senior Mens teams.

    Posted 3 months ago #

  32. teamaccess
    Member

    Italics?

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  33. newbie
    Member

    You might be onto something Popo. The only U20 players that scored any points were from BC and playing CDI.

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  35. newbie
    Member

    Uruguay 13 Canada 11

    Posted 3 months ago #

  36. winger14
    Moderator

    Wow...This has to be one of the biggest disappointments we've had. Perhaps it's time for a change at the top? No disrespect to Tim Murdy, but perhaps it's time for a new voice and approach.

    Winger14

    Posted 3 months ago #

  37. newbie
    Member

    Yes finishing 6th out of eight teams is not good! I wonder what this will do for the U20 mens team rankings?
    The U20 have tons of talent this year and in the past two years. I read an interview with Murdy where he was talking about how successful some of the players coming out of the U20 program have been with their continued rugby careers, one wonders why these player are not successful within the U20 program?
    Perhaps with the right coaching the TEAM could be successful not just individual players!
    Tim may be a good highschool coach but as a national coach I think it is time for RC to look elsewhere IMHO

    Posted 3 months ago #

  38. Toothlesstiger
    Moderator

    Perhaps we should not under rate the strides the opposition have made at this age grade.

    Canada still has it's in-born draw back of having to deal with the geography of our Country. How many camps can the Canadian players afford. Yes it may well be correct that the try scorers are from CDI teams who are at play at this point in the Canadian season.

    Do with know how the Russians fund and orchestrate there training schedule. Typical Russian philosophy is to round them all up and "put" them in a "camp" at minimal costs.

    Who knows? But, the clubs in the East of the Rockies would not be too pleased if any more of their even younger talent is to be syphoned off to the great R.C. West Coast Development in order that their players have match fitness going into such iRB tournaments.

    Afteral the iRB and R.C. monies invested there have not raised the National Programs to be anymore competitive in International competition, have they?

    Unpalatable as it is, Canada is a part-time amateur participant in a professional program. The spoils go to those lesser nations programs that can more closely match the goals and preparations of the big professional nations.

    Yes the iRB do give Canada some funding for the preparations for this tournament but how far does that go towards the cost of living in Ontario or Nfld and training in Victoria with the cost of airfares as they are ?

    Better luck next year and many thanks to the kids and their families for their commitment.

    Posted 3 months ago #

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