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Where are the National Coach's??

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  2. treetop
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    I watched the game between U-vic and Jbaa on Saturday and was surprised(not really) that there wasn't a national coach to be seen?? If there was a game that they should be at this was it! Both teams featured an number of carded and national players. What does it take to get you guys to come out from hiding! GJ was probably busy looking for houses in wales and KC has no excuse. Nothing RC does anymore seems to surprise me

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  4. rugbyfan07
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    Are you really surprised????? And I was wondering how a uncarded second row turned prop can school a national level one?

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  6. newbie
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    I guess considering that GJ had just been in NZ and Vegas with alot of the guys playing in Victoria on the weekend maybe he was in Cowichan seeing some of the unknow players. I mean isn't that what everyone keeps saying is that they should get out and see more players?

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  8. OHBOY
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    I heard Graham Henry was not in Auckland to watch the Blues v. Crusaders game?? I guess they have a build in excuse if they do not win the World Cup now.... Was there a whole bunch of new guys playing in the JBAA - Uvic game that the RC coaching staff haven't seen many times before??

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  10. newbie
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    newbie said:
    I guess considering that GJ had just been in NZ and Vegas with alot of the guys playing in Victoria on the weekend maybe he was in Cowichan seeing some of the unknown players. I mean isn't that what everyone keeps saying is that they should get out and see more players?

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  12. rugbyfan07
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    How about watching to see how they're playing. Or do we only pick on reputation and not form. Cause PR had a shocker and he's the national captain.

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  14. elbows
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    I hear Walsh is with CW again. I guess he is trying to get a chance at the world cup squad. It shows he's serious and willing to make sacrifices.

    I hope he gets a look because he's got plenty of skill, and he always handles the opposition that the rest of Canada sends his way. Any thoughts on his chances?

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  16. OHBOY
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    Do you honestly think that there is enough competition in the BC prem league that KC will have the luxury of picking a world cup team based on form?? I wish that was the case, but right now that is pure fantasy....

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  18. Frank
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    The WC team has been selected, it just has not been announced. Comparing the Super 15 league to the Prem league in BC is like comparing a Paris model to a Surrey girl.

    KC is still in Vegas, he has taken more holidays then there are rainy days in Vancouver.

    The better question is when will RC fire JT then rehire him to only fire his a$$ again?

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  20. rugbyfan07
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    OHBOY said:
    Do you honestly think that there is enough competition in the BC prem league that KC will have the luxury of picking a world cup team based on form?? I wish that was the case, but right now that is pure fantasy....

    That's the best competition we have. The problem is the coaches don't pick players on form they pick them on reputation..If a uncapped 2nd row moves to prop and shoves around a national level prop something is wrong. National teams players should control club level games and take control of them, unlike rioden who was unnoticeable out there on Saturday. Eric Forsythe (sp) has been out playing his competition at 2nd row for years and now is doing it from prop. But he won't get a sniff because the coaches have there favorites.

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  21. irishlock
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    But it's *not* the highest form of comepetition - that would be the CRC...

    There a pathway in place, whether the contributors on this site like it or not. I don't know Eric Forsythe at all and have never seen him play and this is no sleight on him. But he wasn't on the BC Bears team last fall. If you're a Canadian based player and you don't play CRC (for whatever reason - don't have the time or availability, don't want to play at that time of year, not selected etc etc) you can have few complaints if you don't get a call for the NSMT.

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  22. PALADIN
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    Totally disagree with the CRC being that highest form
    of competition in Canada. Not at this time.
    Both teams on Saturday would beat the ROCK or the
    PACK. The standard of rugby was much higher in
    JBAA's narrow win over UVic.
    James Bay plays last's years CRC Champion on May 14th in
    Victoria. Anyone want to put a few dollars on the ROCK?

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  23. irishlock
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    Depends on who's on the Rock team - is it the Regional team or just the NL component? 3 of their pack are in North Wales and I'm pretty sure a couple of the Rock guys have moved to BC for the winter. Are they playing for the Rock? Morgan Williams played on the Rock last year, which team would he be suiting up for?

    If the CDI is so strong it should be a breeze for BC to win the CRC....

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  24. bs_detector
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    PALADIN said:
    Totally disagree with the CRC being that highest form
    of competition in Canada. Not at this time.
    Both teams on Saturday would beat the ROCK or the
    PACK. The standard of rugby was much higher in
    JBAA's narrow win over UVic.
    James Bay plays last's years CRC Champion on May 14th in
    Victoria. Anyone want to put a few dollars on the ROCK?

    I'd put my money on The Rock despite the fact it will be their first game in 8 months (September 2010 - May 2011).

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  25. Smallprint
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    The match between JBAA and the Rock has the potential to be great. If both teams field their best rosters. The two organizations bring a degree of professionalism, and a commitment to winning that RC and other clubs across the country would do well to emulate.

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  26. Harry Craig
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    Fan07said
    "But he won't get a sniff because the coaches have there favorites."

    Guess what, all coaches at all levels have favourites.

    Paladin, people ask for RC to set a pathway to the National team and RC does it then the same people ignore the set pathway because it doesn't suit them.

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  27. rugbyfan07
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    The reason is because the pathway doesn't make sence.

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  28. Harry Craig
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    Club, region then national it makes sense to me, but if you're from BC who needs the rest of the country, other than to stock your clubs because you aren't really as good as you think you are. You are right though, it dosen't make sence.

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  29. rugbyfan07
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    Harry it doesn't go club, region then national team! It's club, national team then region.....therefore We have a system in which players feel they don't have a opportunity to make the national team if they weren't already in the system. Which is why we have a set up which is loaded with private school kids.

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  30. PALADIN
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    After the CRC Championship ROCK beating PACK KC selected a Canadian squad with 4 from the ROCK 4 from the PACK
    5 from the BLUES and 9 from last place BEARS(Teddy).
    The CRC should be a path to the National team but try
    telling that to last years finalists.

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  31. elbows
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    I have heard time and time again that The Rock and now last year the Wolf Pack as well, have "good teams" but not necessarily the "good" players. This is why they don't get the players selected to the national camps.

    This makes absolutely no sense to me. I always thought that good team chemistry wins games not good egos. Wouldn't you want to build a team around players that can buy into a team concept to make the unit stronger?

    I heard a saying that "none of us is as strong as all of us" I guess this doesn't really hold true with the national selectors.

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  32. rugbyfan07
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    PALADIN said:
    After the CRC Championship ROCK beating PACK KC selected a Canadian squad with 4 from the ROCK 4 from the PACK
    5 from the BLUES and 9 from last place BEARS(Teddy).
    The CRC should be a path to the National team but try
    telling that to last years finalists.

    How do they pick players for the Churchill Cup, on last years CRC form??????

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  33. Harry Craig
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    No matter what they do someone will complain. I think we need an oligarch to fund us. Does Pattison have rugby connections, he's rich

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  34. Frank
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    Work schedule for the national team coaches to train the carded players.

    m: KC
    t: GJ
    w: MS
    t: Off
    f: Off
    s:game day
    s: the lords day

    Just throwing it out there

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  35. rugbyfan07
    Member

    M-off
    T- off
    W-off
    T-off
    F-off
    S-off
    S-off

    Just throwing it out there

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  36. Frank
    Member

    That's OFF.

    When is the U20 Academy going to be up and running? Why does RC have a director of rugby and a high performance director? Isn't that one in same? Who reports to whom? Who do the national coaches report to? Wouldn't it be special to see that flow chart!

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  37. Harry Craig
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    Not all rugby is high performance, just watch me ref and you'll know that.

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  38. Frank
    Member

    Harry you should be at the scrum clinic. You could learn a thing or two about the engagement process.

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  39. Harry Craig
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    I'm always open to learning, I know my reffing needs improving although on scrum engagement I'm pretty good.

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